
And if you're Glasgow's Symbolics, you keep toiling away, even if five years after officially forming, you're still without a record deal.
Their MySpace page sums up their existence best: "Symbolics formed in 2001. At the time they were four naive young men without a record deal. Times have changed, and now they are five naive young men without a record deal."
Symbolics have achieved a bit of success in their native Scotland: a runner-up in Fury Murrys' King of Bands contest; gigs at King Tut's Wah Wah Hut and Glasgow School Of Art; airplay on BBC Radio 1, Beat 106, and Virgin Radio Glasgow. However, that record deal remains ever elusive.
Hear it for yourself. Download: "Social Dancing" by Symbolics. Melodic, relentless, and a bit trashy -- that's Symbolics. Also, more tracks are available on the band's MySpace page.